The supercell is better for tools with small dust ports, the clear Vue is better for the large tools with big or multiple dust ports. I inherited a Dust collector, PSI Tempest TEMP14xx I think. I am pondering either the Oneida V3000 or the ClearVue CV1800 or CVMax. The 1.5 horse dust collector is more than efficient and collects down to 1 micron with a blast gates at each machine. Al, in the first paragraph of mine that you quoted, there is a typo. Latest Projects |

Manitario, would you be willing to share where you picked up your QF piping and kb duct? For me, this dust collector right now will only be for my Sawstop table saw, miter saw, and eventually a Hammer A3-41 jointer/planer. Hope your setup goes well ! My current system was the simplest and got me back to work on wood instead of plumbing from a ladder. Most tools can be modified for better dust collection. OF1010 EQ Router | MFT/3 | DF500Q | Mafell P1CC | ETS EC 150/3 | CT 36 Auto Clean | TSC55 | LR32 | OF1400 EQ Router | ZOBO Metric Set | CXS Li 2.6 - 90 Limited Edition | Universal Cleaning Set | HKC55 | Centrotec CE-SORT | RO150 FEQ | DTS 400 | RO90 DX | CTSYS | C18 Drill | SysLite KALII | Syslite STL 450 | RAS 115 E | OF2200 EB | OSC 18 Vectoro | VAC SYS SYSTEM S ET | MX 1200 E MIXER | DF700 XL | PDC 18 | TID 18 | ConuoroKA 65 | Kapex KS120 REB | MFK700| RTSC 400 | LS 130 EQ, Festool: 2x MFT/3 // OF-1400 // MFS-400 & 700 // RO-90 // SYS-ROLL // VAC-SYS SET SE1 // CT-ASA CT 26/36/SB // KS 120 EB & UG-L & R // VECTURO OS 400 EQ-Set // DSG-AG 125 // DSC-AG 125 // DSC-AG 125 FH // HK 85 EB // HK 55 EB. I am a big fan of the Laguna C flux or (P flux if you want to go HEPA) collectors. Press J to jump to the feed. Love to hear the feedback from those of you with recent experience with these products. I was tempted to buy another, but have zero room. If you are only going to be sucking through one 4 inch dust port at a time then the supercell is the way to go. Update. They called me 2 days later and spent a lot of time educating me and understanding my needs and recommended a Supercell. It was ok. https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-collectors/supercell-high-pressure-wall-mounted-hepa-cyclone-dust-collector-230v.

I have come to the realization Im not doing a good job with my shop vac collecting dust. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. "I long for the days when coke was a cola and a joint was a bad place to be" (Merle Haggard). Built in the year 2000. This is cleaner air than my house! Even the air/dust separation was comparable in my tests, and I figured that CV would have some advantage there. I would highly recomend that you either design this on your own very carefully or have someone design it for you (preferably be on site). The CFM at the end of my longest runs (50ft) averages just over 500, which I think is pretty good for the static pressure in the long runs. The cone reduced air speed and some chips and dust remained. The CV, on the other hand, moves as much air (more than mine, it has the smaller 14" impeller) separates much better due to the internal air ramp, squared sloped inlet, and dimensional correctness per Pentz. Building a shop, 2020 , and am shopping dust collection. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. My Ridgid shop vac is fitted with a Dust Deputy, and lives next to and connected to my chopsaw via an expandable 2" hose, and is then also available to service smaller tools like RO sander, disc/belt sander, Kreg pocket jig, oscillating sander, and of course to do normal shop vac cleanup duty. Todd,do you have a hot water furnace in your garage?

Started with it in a 2 car garage and now use it in a 1000sqft shop. That from a descendant of Scottish ancestors who made the Indian ride the buffalo on nickels. I really don't think I can go wrong with either option. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building! It almost drove me crazy and out of the shop for good.

In the whole process I discovered a new company making the QF pipe called US Duct. Let me toss a bit of gasoline on this fire. Violations to rule 1 including crude jokes, innuendo, sexist remarks, politics, or hate speech may result in an immediate ban. I ve also heard about the Oneida having less effective dust separation with their cyclone design. Our biweekly podcast allows editors, authors, and special guests to answer your woodworking questions and connect with the online woodworking community. If you have the money, consider the Supercell.

Dont overlook the larger impeller I have, Im sure that contributes to the noise level. When you say better, that encompasses many different aspects. Hello out there. I have a Jet vortex 1.5 hp and all the stuff you have plus more. Having difficulties reading project plans? I went with a Laguna C flux. Eyes, ears, fingers, and Are you looking for or do you have tips to share regarding the workshop? House used to have two ovens. My concern with Oneida products is that they minimize their filter area; I wonder how this affects the airflow with use eg. More air is certainly going to make it louder. I think the quality between the two companies is very similar. Thanks for all the valuable insights everyone! I finally got escalated to a VP and got some answers, which seemed legit. Its pretty quick and no tools needed to switch connections. I dont have a way (yet) to determine if this is working as stated in the literature and theres some things that make me question it. Bottom line I want to make the DC usable and if the CV1800 is 93 DB that would run me out of the garage being that these motors are not designed to be turned on/off all the time (my understanding they should be left on all the time versus turned on/off constantly). Then a Fein that I can roll around, but usually hooked up to the Bandsaw with a remote. Have you had to compromise your project On the lathe, by the lathe: do you have questions? the V3000 has a 95sqft filter vs the CV which has 300sqft. I used my iPhone with a free app to measure the db. (this is one of the complications we have with venting outside). A forum community dedicated to professional woodworkers and enthusiasts. Enter now for your chance to win more than $2,000 worth of woodworking equipment from Woodpeckers. tips? Basement shop. I have no problem with the plastic model, but the steel one might be a little more quiet. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, 1) CV1800 + filter @ $1595 + $250 for electrical box, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. But my shop is also 1500 sf. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google, https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-collectors/supercell-high-pressure-wall-mounted-hepa-cyclone-dust-collector-230v, Editor's Letter: Technology and the future of woodworking. Re: Oneida V System 3000 vs Clearvue Cyclone, Quote from: BleedBlue on August 11, 2020, 03:29 PM, Quote from: cpw on August 11, 2020, 06:00 PM, Quote from: BleedBlue on August 12, 2020, 04:08 PM, Quote from: jonathan-m on August 13, 2020, 05:25 AM. 2022 Verticalscope Inc. All Rights Reserved. I added a small over head air filter near my workbench where most of the sanding is done. dust collection. frustrations? (Would make it easier to empty).

It still works, but the new Vortex is just a huge improvement. The overhead pipe might have been nice, but a had to go around a triple laminated beam which would have added four 45 degree els to the pipe and been a pain to plumb on a 9 ft ceiling. I built a storage room onto my shop, and have lumber storage, cyclone, air compressor and a tire machine in there. http://www.stumpynubs.com/dust.html. Im not sure this is a great idea but Im wondering if it is an option. Both systems look good but which one is better? The CFM at the end of my longest runs (50ft) averages just over 500, which I think is pretty good for the static pressure in the long runs. Now I'm going to pay for it and try to sell off what I can at a big discount. Who makes a better dust collection systemthe Oneida 5HP or the Clearvue 5HP? Oneida's DC's are built like a tank (at least the older ones were), but in my opinion most other attributes favor the CV. Just get a flexible hose or two and some quick connect 4" attachments to use at each machine. I switched from an Oneida SDG to a CV1800, so that should clarify my opinion between the 2. My guess is that all the vendors will give you a 10% discount if you pressure them, some will just do it right off the bat (I had one out of 3 that I contacted give me the 10% off with the initial quote with out asking). If the Oneida is really only 74 DB (as reported by Oneida) at 10 ft it might be possible to live with that but even then I know that would get annoying to listen to for 10 minutes after I turned on the saw for one cut. Different wood requires different woodworking strategies - from cutting to finishing. The motor on the Tempest has specs and a diagram to go from 220 to 110V. Thank Fred. One other thing, if you vent outside you will probably increase the airflow, That's a good thing, unless you overload the motor (that's why I replaced the Baldor on mine). Lagune CFlex. Any thoughts of building a bigger shop? I can live with a shop vac that is that loud but (thats what my current shop vac measures, 74 db) but it begins to annoy me shortly after I turn off the saw if I leave it on. I know little to nothing about Clearvue but I have owned an Oneida Cyclone for twenty years. To reduce the risk of serious injury and/or damage to your Festool product, always read, understand and follow all warnings and instructions in your Festool product's Instruction Manual. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Spent a lot of money on plastic gates and fittings and have parts to spare. Connection to a 3 HP tablesaw is mostly permanent.

I have it in the corner of my basement shop area. You won't have enough room in your shop to move the unit around. I used KB duct (cheaper than Nordfab) but experience showed me that the Nordfab clamps are better so used them with the KB ducting. Good luck. I am happy for the most part but was disappointed in a number of aspects from the sale to the delivery. I'm still undecided but all the responses have given me much to research and consider.

As for the noise. Wish me luck. Looking for information on designing your projects? Clearvue is heavy clear plastic and MDF made in USA, but enjoys the advantage of Bill Pentz cyclone design. I have an Excalibur overarm guard on the saw, and it will suck the insert up. 15 planner is biggest chip maker connected and V3000 easily handles it without an issue. Once again, Dad was right. Comment about the noise; I have my DC in a well insulated closet in my shop. I would try to connect as many of the machines to dust collection as you can manage since moving suction hoses around as you change machines is a pain. If you have the budget, I recommend the Oneida Supercell. Following up on my earlier post on this topic. Ive seen and read some negative things about both but more concerning reviews with ClearVue. :) I started with a hose that I moved around with DC then parked DC under stair landing and drug hose around. I A cyclone itself is really a drag on that movement, so for the same CFM, cyclones will generally have to have a larger motor/fan to overcome that drag. I have an older Super Dust Gorilla and very happy but am jealous of your new machine with the increased suck. So, will the 2.5/3 HP models do as well.probably, but there are so many factors involved it's hard to say. My father used to tell me that "it never costs to go first class, it pays". If that is not something you are interested in doing then maybe the clear Vue isn't the right choice. I wish I could vent outside, it would solve all of my current complaints with my Oneida. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building. Wasn't able to get DC to the tablesaw and so I clean it out regularly. I opened and closed gates for each tool. I wish I would have done it sooner. The 5 HP Leeson is actually a compressor duty motor and is likely closer to a 4 HP motor (BTW, that's the motor I put on my Oneida). Plus tips, advice, and special offers from Fine Woodworking. Post a layout of your shop when you get it done - I know I could use your ideas. I want my time in the shop to be spent on my hobby, not fiddling with pipes and hoses anymore. I cannot recall the model number exactly. I would suggest the 15 impellerit will move plenty f air, and be just a tad quieter. Id rather go to big than have to regret not having enough power, and Id love to have the upgraded Steel cyclone but Im having a hard time justifying the $1000 increase in cost. This is a one-person shop, 20x30 ft, and the main tools are (1) table saw, (2) radial arm saw, (3) chop saw, (4) Dewalt 12" planer, (5) shaper, and (6-10) various hand-held power tools - all to be used one-at-a-time, and all have dust ports that are 4" or less.

Id also like to rig this up for a hood or downdraft table for sanding.Im a bit torn on what company to go with here Oneida or ClearVue. I have a similar shop to you. I can do a review in a few months if theres interest, but just a highlight. Im not entirely sure it was worth it yet to be perfectly honest. If I did, I'd just stick with what I have. If you wait Grizzly sends out 10% off occassionally, but the vendor matched/beat that deal for me. I don't have time to fiddle with hoses. I should add, I regularly get bashed for peeing on the Oneida name, so I'll add that all of this is just my opinion. . well, i guess i bought myself a nice b-day present Congrats Al, there is no doubt in my mind you will be happy with your purchase. My jointer is at a right angle to the saw. So, if you vent outside you really have to worry about separationonly getting sufficient airflow to capture the fine dust.

Ive had a CV1800 and currently have an Oneida DG 5 HP. Become an UNLIMITED member and get it all: searchable online archive of every issue, how-to videos, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking digital series, print magazine, e-newsletter, and more. So I think it was worth the effort to put the unit out in a external room for not only the sound but also it provides me more room in the shop. Theres good information there and Im basing much of my decisions on that information. Thanks again to all. Im leaning towards the flexibility of using Norfab or equivalent QF piping as I seem to move things around.I currently have a router, table saw, bench top planer, and miter saw (with out a permanent station). I work with metal and starting to work more with wood so space is a factor. For me, 7 years of use and the cyclone unit shows no wear. My test so far have consisted of some light use, but I did connect this to my bandsaw which is a Grizzly 17, with two 4 ports. Terms of Service The hose tucks under the extension table along with the collector. I suppose I could have used a section of hose for that, but I questioned the effectiveness of pulling dust and chips through that.

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