I know how to do it, but I don't know the grit of the sand paper he uses. should plastic spray paint be used? Paint doesnt fill in scratches. I keep a spray bottle with a very small amount of soap in it and just make sure the area is nice and soaked. fairings repairing and reupholstering a motorcycle seat, Buyers Guides Guides to buying motorcycles, used and new, Harley-Davidson Nightster: A Class of One, Honda CB1000R Buyers Guide: Great Bike in a Tough Crowd, Ducati DesertX Five Ways Its Actually Different (and not just a marketing gimmick), Motorcycle Braking Systems and Specs Explained A Complete FAQ, Boxer Unobtanium: The BMW HP2 Motorcycles (Enduro, Megamoto, Sport). I found it best to hold the fairing up on an elevated point, like off a string. Heres what Id do next time (and what you should do). Think of it like a haircut; you can always chop off more, but if you've chopped off too much, there's no going back. On top of being large, it wouldnt hold together.

To test if you're ready for the next coat, touch an inconspicuous area you wouldn't see; is it wet?

I would wet sand the final color coat and the last clear coat. If you figured it all out or you think im wrong disregard the above. And also there is no need to apply primer huh, only primer for the tank, probably! Does the Number of Cylinders Affect Service/Maintenance Costs on Motorcycles? Ive seen fairings rattle canned before.

Well, I am. Rider, hacker, and self-taught everything. However, there are some pretty deep gouges on the left side, preventing my gopro (or anything) from sticking to it. "When the time comes, I'll be too busy lookin good!". You will likely end up with small specs in your paint; on the grand scheme of things it won't matter but a clean area will minimise this. He is married to Lark Dill Howell and they are the parents of Benton and Lauren. when I color sand I usually go 1000, 1500, 2000. then a good polishing, smooth as glass. ColorRite should have the exact color for your make and model bike: Depending on how deep the scratches are, 600 is too fine. Use a body filler putty (generic kind) to fill in the gaps around your soldering work. Then do 2 coats of clear coat. Longer to be on the safe side if at room temperature. just keep sanding until it's not shiney any more. that krylon fusion is good, and there is another brand thats for plastics. you dont really need to put on any primer since the old paint will pretty much act like a primer anyway. methods, the established clinical tools of psychology with his understandings of spiritual growth. Do I need to remove all of the paint down to the plastic, or can I get away with sanding most of the clear coat off? Leave those for lawn furniture. I used a polishing Buff head on a machine for mines.

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although if you paint it good, with little orange peel, a quick shot with the claybar followed by a good polish will look about the same. orbital sander from the depot and get some Velcro backed paper. Are you talking 4-600 before priming or between coats? ?instead for sanding,preping,primering,painting,color sanding and buffing the plastics. I am kinda leery of it though. In the event you decide to paint, you'll find the pores in the FRP can cause fish-eyes in the finish. use acetone or isopropyl alcohol for cleaner, or wax and grease remover. If I recall that is his name, he is the lead technician there. You've waited too long.

I donno, I let my painter do all this stuff.

You need to use the same type of plastic for a proper, long lasting repair. I agree with the flex thing. A forum community dedicated to the Suzuki GSX-R motorcycle. any info would be appreciated.

you can continue this process until your happy with the fairing. If you want to wet-sand, paint at least 2 or 3 coats first. 01 CBR929RE ------------- 01 DRZ400S SOLD ------------ 95 CBR900RR. Hope this helps a little until someone else chimes in. Also, my motorcycle was such a throwaway cheap motorcycle I didnt care too much. I need some advice here My bike is salvage, wrecked on both sides when I bought it. want to sand my fairings so i could primer them, but scared to start. So if youve ever dropped and cracked a fairing, knowing how to plastic weld and repaint a fairing is a valuable skill to know!

Use a soldering iron and cable ties (made of plastic) to solder the plastic shut, making sure to properly melt the plastic together. Learn how your comment data is processed.

(use high flex filler for bumper skins and such) I like to use high solids surfacer primer 2-3 coats to build a guud surface. However there are companies out now that have a flex agent that mixes with the clear (which is the cause for the cracks, splits, etc.) This was my first time. Just to keep in mind.

Clean your panel throughly once you're happy with the matte look. Discuss the GSX-R600, GSX-R750, GSX-R1000, and GSX-R1100, and more! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Theres basically four levels of repainting. stock paint or redone? Motorcycling is not, of itself, inherently dangerous. Motorcycle buyers guides, reviews, market analysis, gear, and much more. I checked my can this morning when I went into the garage but might have forgotten the name again lol, I think it was "Platinum Silver Metallic", and again, was a Toyota OEM match, Duplicolor Brand, found it at Autozone. For colour, do 3-4 coats. Read More Suzuki Hayabusa HeliBars Quick Install GuideContinue. Motorcycle fairings are made of ABS. Doctor of Philosophy from the University of Virginia in 1979, Dr. Howell has treated children, In his ground-breaking book from Balboa Press entitled; Becoming Conscious: The Enneagram's Forgotten Passageway, Dr. Howell reveals simple, yet profound ways to know our deepest selves and the other people in our lives. Brilliant thanks. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Once it's done, leave to cure for 24hrs. Its just a single color paint. When I bought my Ninja 650 to repair, I bought it knowing the engine was fine but that it needed a bunch of cosmetic repairs to the controls, fairing, and seat. I like using the multi stage because it lasts longer and holds op better. Regarding your query, if the fairings paint isn't cracked and is of generally qood quality (i.e factory quality) you won't need extensive prep work. Hey guys, well unfortunately I had my first minor accident in the mountains last weekend and I am going to need to sand and repaint the majority of my plastics. but don't do it in the living room-makes dust. Dont apply too much paint or you'll end up with runs. Focus on deep scratched areas and try to remove them as best as possible. At the track, its possible Id crash it and have to repair fairings again. i am either force to fix what i got or buy new and have a good paint job put on the new ones.. i was looking for opinions and some how-to's. Clean the fairing with water and a sponge. I have lived in a dozen countries, speak almost as many languages, can deadlift a motorcycle, make a mean cappuccino, and do one great card trick. Read More How to Check Motorcycle Frame AlignmentContinue. The clear gives it more depth. we could get it done and fixed up propper if your willing to put in some work. That is why the car companies use it and custom painters alike. I have used this technique before and it works pretty well. the method i used was to wet the sandpaper, then after i get a good bit sanded, wet the plastics to clean off any residue and check my progress. "growing up i was told i could be anything, so i became a. JavaScript is disabled.

A plastic booth is an ok idea, but a better approach would be making a booth out of sheets and laying one on the floor and get them damp, that way the dust in the air will stick to the sheets and you will not be kicking the dust around on the floor, with the damp sheet there. i got some extra primer and clear i could shoot out for a 6 pack of beer just need to bring the right paint (not spray can. Now you really only need to get ride of the clear coats. a good indication is when you start to see color in the water, that means you have gone through the clear. id recommend hand sanding the bondo. I learned the general principle from the YouTube channel Delboys Garage who demonstrated it on a plastic box. I bought a black set of lower fairings because it matched enough with the rest of the bike and at the time was happy with it. I'm about to have him custom paint the R1 as soon as my new bodywork shows up. Dr. Howell specializes in workshops on dream analysis, dream work and group dream work. This hole was about the size of my palm. In a perfect world I would have a professional do it but all the paint shops I went to nearby have fairly long lead times. I bought a police road king new a few years ago from a dealership that came mostly white with some black parts.

and clean before you do any sanding. A buddy of mine happened to have two uppers and two lower fairings, were not sure of the brand but they're pretty sturdy, very dusty and unfortunately scratched ;(, Ive had to fix my zx7r plastics before and you wanna start with like a 180 grit and go all tje way up to a 1000 grit to get rid of all defects. Theres a great thread on this, I fell on it the other day so have no idea where it was Has just realized that I don't care what it costs until I get the bill! Just be aware that lacquer is thicker than paint and prone to runs. It needs to be smooth. Typical one part spray cans are worthless for automotive/motorcycle applications for the most part. If you like what you read here, and youre a fraction as obsessed as I am, you might like to know when Ive published more. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I'm Also Getting Ready To Paint My Bike, But I'm Doing Both Plastic,and Metal. healing, and combating mental illness are sought after by many groups. Required fields are marked *.

Ive painted plenty of fuel tanks using the right materials, 2K paint. If I can get away with just sanding the clear off (which I assume will remove some of the black paint), can I skip priming? On areas that are too difficult for sandpaper use a red scotch Brite pad. Press J to jump to the feed. hey smash if u can wait a bit bring them over to my place. Sand back all the plastic that you added when you were doing plastic welding. Cable ties are made of Nylon. I think clear coat polishing will be the hardest for me. looks like a oranges skin. His lectures on stress reduction, Sand the roughest bits with coarse and then progressively fine sandpaper, ending at about. Installing HeliBars on a Suzuki Hayabusa 2nd gen plus a brief review. 2nd coat: maybe give it a practice go on another surface, but the idea is to keep about half a metre from the surface and overlap roughly half of your previous pass on each subsequent pass thereafter. A lively and energetic speaker, Dr. Howell is a regionally known workshop and seminar presenter.

The aim is to remove the laquers shine. Dr. Howell combines in his treatment Read More How to Test Your Motorcycle Charging System A Comprehensive GuideContinue. However there are companies out now that have a flex agent that mixes with the clear (which is the cause for the cracks, splits, etc.) Once done get the ol' 1000 grit out. i appreciate all the thoughts.. A forum community dedicated to Motorcycle and Sportbike owners and enthusiasts. Thanks for the tips! What to check when buying a used motorcycle the ultimate checklist for motorbikes. Hey Guys I Happen Tobe Checking Out Your Threads And I Like What I Read. For a lot of dirt bikes and quads I have used the single stage. Finally, a specialist topic I can help with! I will get some pics today and post them up. Read More What to Check When Buying a Used Motorcycle The Ultimate ChecklistContinue. Try to get a shop to do the clear though, especially if it's close to the road a shop coating will be less susceptible to getting nicked by debris. do not use automotive paint, most of then don't have a flex agent added and will end up just cracking off your plastic. Enjoy! Should I be using any water or anything while I'm sanding, or just dry? Joseph B. Howell, Ph.D., LLC is a clinical psychologist who practices in Anniston, Alabama. Rider forum is a community for motorcyclists including both street and track riders. just get a bucket and dip your sandpaper in there, start sanding. Please if anyone could help me figure out what exacty tools I need and the technique from start to finish to accomplish my goal that would be awesome. of personality typing and dynamics, which he has studied and taught for twenty years. I know that I need to remove and clean the fairings really well and remove all stickers before sanding but if anyone could let me know detailed steps or send me to a link of detailed steps of how to correctly sand away scratches etc. You may need to re-apply filler if you don't put on enough. Sand the entire panel down. Will take minutes to dry.

I guess I should use filler? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Second that. orange peel is exactly what it says. If it's the silver color in your pic then Duplicolor makes a Toyota oem matching paint that's really friggin close - check your local autozone/kragen. Which is what anyone should be using. Suspend your fairings using metal hooks and ensure you have 360 access to spray. other more specific topics in psychology and spirituality. Given that it's white paint you're using, make sure the area you're painting in is exceptionally clean and dust free. 2013 BOTY. Many If it doesn't I would go with 600. But Id suggest if youre unfamiliar or if its your precious Panigale practice first! Home depot. I just used a 200grit sandpaper to get it all the same height and get rid of the bad tape marks then I used 2 finer grits like 400 and 600 to get the plastics nice and smooth. I think a previous owner had tried to glue it back in place unsuccessfully. then you put on the amount of coats I said ealier, 2-3-3.:2cents: There are already a few threads on thisrecently to boot! Great thanks everybody! 1000grit. you tackleing the paint work too? Content on rc51forums.com is generated by its users. JavaScript is disabled. Laquering leaves a finish called "orange peel" which is generally bumpy. Thats why I created this site as an outlet. cant tell from the pics how deep the scratches are but maybe a light coat of bondo ? What are you thinking??). Your email address will not be published. i was gonna start prepping my plastics to paint and i was wondering how should i do that..sand paper etcand what type of paint to use..then after the paint has been applied should i wet sand then compound and leave with no clear coat? A native of Mobile, Alabama, Dr. Howell has lived and worked in Anniston since 1979. Well I don't know if mine counts but when I bought my bike it had 5 layers of paint cause the guy was a retard. Not a perfect match but on the piece I used it on your have to be lookin. I wouldn't do the plasti dip myself but itll be a good look. How does the number of cylinders affect motorcycle reliability? Then remove all decals and the adhesive with 3M adhesive remover, you want the cleanest surface possible. Occasionally take a towel and dry off the area you're rubbing down to see if it has a matte look; it doesn't need to be perfect, as long as the majority of it has been done thats fine but if you wanna be perfect, make it as matte as possible. When you spray clear it needs a "tooth" to stick to. Was just hoping to sand down until I get level with those deep scratches, but that could remove too much material. When you solder fairings its usually quite an ugly job that youll fix later using sandpaper. Im going to repaint all the black parts white starting with the lower fairings so it looks less like a cop bike. Those SANDPAPER numbers sound coarse but that paper is finer, id say 220 is like 4-600 wetsand paper. Call Colorite and ask to talk to Doug. im near parker and arapahoe so i dont think im to far from ya.

No need to remove old paint unless it's thick from repainting.

I feel better if a professional does it.. maybe because he does it for me for free. I agree with the flex thing. I think you really need to post pics before we could say one way or another if you need filler. Good luck. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, 93 Sportster 1200, 75 Yamaha RD350, 17 Grom, CT70(x3), Z50(x4).

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A forum community dedicated to all sportbike owners and enthusiasts. concentrated his studies in psychology and religion. Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums Gixxer.com. Edit:clean and degrease before sanding. Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, where he completed his clinical internship. it all depends on what your trying to fix yourself. Hope that it's clear enough and its helpful! This isnt the perfect way, but it gets the job done. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. You don't have to put real effort into it but it will look a ton better and make sure you dont lose a camera.

Here are the steps to repairing fairings. use a continus flow of water. Laquering is the same technique to how the paint was done; dust, 1st, 2nd. A forum community dedicated to Honda RC51 owners and enthusiasts. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. You won't need a primer. what filler is recommended for plastic? Avoid painting your fuel tank at all costs. adults and families for a wide variety of problems of living. For light scratches you can shave them out with 220 grit. I've painted some cars. Read More About the 2020 BMW S 1000 RR Brake Caliper RecallContinue.

For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. they sell primers specifically for uerothane bumpers and plastic body parts, do not use a primer intended for metal, cause once again no flex agent. it will wrinkle under the ppg clear i have). when i did mine all i did was 300 wet sand everything. You need cable ties because you need extra plastic. this will allow you to create an even surface area. For the primer, do 2 coats. Web site: im in the process of painting mine now.

I wet sanded a car while another person held a hose over the aarea i was sanding came out awesome i posted pics off topic in the question about leds i asked.

1000 (or 1200) grit the surface until its matte uniformly to ensure the orange peel is gone. A general rule of thumb for layers is at least 2 coats of primer, 2-3 coats of color, then 3 coats of clear. anything that was damaged enough to show bare plastic i used a little plastic filler to smooth it out then a little adhesion promoter to give the paint something to stick to since it doesnt stick well to bare plastic. any websites or info would be useful. Alright sir, if it was me id buy a 4 or 5 inch electric d.a. Perfect. Mine Had A Simple Paint Job When I Got It, But I'm Looking For A More Hard Finish. Having received his The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Scuff sand with 150-200 grit to prep. thanks for the help gentle men..do i need a special primer for plastics and after wet sanding do i need to so anything else beside clearcoat?

why use automotive colors? With 800 grit and a tub of water, wet the surface of the plastic and rub it down with the sandpaper. Remove the fairing piece from the motorcycle. (Also, dont do this on your Panigale! My goal was to get the motorcycle to a condition where it wouldnt be embarrassing, and to where I could take it to a racetrack.

Ive heard of people using alot of different #sand papers all the way from 180 to 600, wet sand? Once youve soldered fairings back together, you have to repaint it.

For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.colorrite.com/matrix-step1.cfm?type=2, http://www.evercoat.com/productDetail.aspx?pID=4, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. (Check the latest for an idea of what youll see.). How to check motorcycle frame alignment using either a straight edge or a string. You can use a coarse grit sandpaper for this. Apply your primer, then colour, then clearcoat. Use a 400-600 grit, the paint data sheet should tell you. and do I need to go through the scratches until they are smooth regardless of whether I go through the clear coat and base coat on scratched areas? You can usually do this with a screwdriver and pliers for a few clips. Prime the plastic and then paint it. It worked well for me but like I said I had alot of unwanted paint layers. Sand it smooth to 2000 grit. Possibly 4th coat should the black still be prominent. Here are the key points of welding together plastic. RiderForums.com - Kawasaki Motorcycle Forum. Why are you recommending not using a primer? get a piant mixed for you with the flex agents. then you should spray a light coat of primer down take 800 grit paper and WET sand the fairing. happy sanding. Wet sand it. JavaScript is disabled. Does It Matter Much Which Stage I Use Or Its Just How Much Paint Is On The Bike Already.

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Come in and talk about your favorite model. Over years of research and practice, Dr. Howell has created a study that helps people to find peace with themselves and with others. will get that lower/upper sanded in about 20 min. How to test the charging system of a motorcycle alternator/stator coil, regulator/rectifier, and battery. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy | Contact Information | Home, Becoming Conscious: The Enneagram's Forgotten Passageway, Meditation for Healing and Relaxation Compact Disc.

Add filler putty to the holes (thats the pink stuff in the photo above). Sticky? thanks for the tips neko..i was gonna do it at my grand fathers's shop he paints boats and other stuff.but i will make me a booth with the plastics..thanks for the advice.to wet sand the clear coat what grit do you recommend? "Flash" time is 30-40mims. No problem at all with that here. Cable ties are made of the wrong type of plastic for repairing motorcycle fairings. that would be great. Sand the shine off, no need to remove all the clear. be aware that you have some thin spots in the primer, this is normal. Three rattle cans primer, colour, and clear coat. Is that something that's done when using plasti dip Vs paint? is also a regionally known expert on the Enneagram, a method Also what are you talking about dont paint the fuel tank? So as summer approaches, I have finally gotten my tracking a fairings for the RC. you could pretty much go either way with wet sanding. Give it more time. Awesome. Use some filler to smooth over imperfections and sand with a rubber wet sanding block and soapy water. I've read to sand out to 1000 in a couple of plasti dip topic threads. It is, however, extremely unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence, or stupidity". I dont need showroom cvo perfect, but Id like not to paint twice because I did a glaringly obvious diy job or have paint peel off after a few seasons.

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