Well, the only way is to try. Anyway, I'm likely a freak in that regard. Protecting humans and their possessions from the light of all but low-power and low-energy lasers is done using barriers of all sorts, along with interlocks (sensing systems that make sure that, if a laser's enclosure is opened or otherwise breached, the laser is switched off before damage is done) and good procedure, including the use of warning signs. He did mention the minimum order was around 250 meters or so for them, which puts it out of my league.
Also, stray reflections are not always very obvious, especially with an infrared laser beam.
"When the power to the controller is interrupted, critical outputs, such as door magnetic locks and laser interlocks, revert to a safe state: magnetic locks off, laser interlocks open," MacMullin says. Wrong way?
Thanks for pointing it out! Have you looked here? GPS, so you are saying that a given manufacture of bellows, is using a different thickness material for an 8x10, and a different material for a 11x14, and a different material for 8x20 and a different material for 12x16 and a different material for 16x20? Just that I might be hard pressed to find enough 'enthusiasts' to fill up an order for 250 meters of cloth. Every type of duvetyne/commando cloth I've ever used has been way too thick to make a bellows that properly compacts. Protect-Laserschutz (Nrnberg, Germany) is another company with a multiplicity of laser-safety products, but of particular note here is its Bodyguard line of laser-safety clothing. ?:0FBx$ !i@H[EE1PLV6QP>U(j For the recent 5x7, I found a "car windshield cover to keep off snow and ice" at a local discount store that turned out to be perfect. Once the room is armed, this module may be locally armed. I didn't have a problem with puckering but I started to get pretty low on glue towards the end. ;), What's wrong on using the correct material for different size of bellows?;). "We recently installed laser-blocking blinds at a hospital in Illinois," Castleberry says. Thorlabs offers a variety of light accessories for labs. instruments for examining the eyes independent of the patients perceptions or reactions, A61B 5/00 - Measuring for diagnostic purposes ; Identification of persons, G02B 26/08 - Optical devices or arrangements using movable or deformable optical elements for controlling the intensity, colour, phase, polarisation or direction of light, e.g. Jim, how are you spreading the glue? The super thin one mentioned earlier does sound promising, though. The Laser-Blocking Curtains Lastek supplies ismade by Lasermet using their specially-developed laser-blocking material. Blackout materials are also ideal for use during ellipsometry and certain polarimetry techniques, where the modulation signals of ambient light can adversly impact accurate measurements. "The blinds are being used in their operating rooms to protect the doctors and patients from stray laser beams. And can I ask why you didn't just do two layers of BK5? I've made many many bellows, it's really just a matter of finding some thin light-tight cloth. Sorry that's not getting through. Such signs, which are part of the product lines of many laser-safety companies, range from general, easily-seen warnings to more-specific descriptions of wavelengths, powers, or laser classes (see Fig. Why is it so difficult for some to understand that there is a different material for different bellows? Shouldn't be impossible to find. materials! This includes windows, barriers and curtains, enclosures, clothes, interlocks, shutters, signs, and other less tangible goods, such as hazard assessments, audits, laser-safety training, and information sources. FT3Yb`JqCS+qWm%N`^,vkA=v>_@T 8;b2i\)m.wTxWl;7&'wuSs#`?iy?a*bO}Q (hGRXwuI81y(9lp5)-Mn3nAyK_JTcgZY
"xe;R`Q!]Y$r!_Vkf;w?G]s; The result was a modular system in which each module mounts inside a normal single-gang or dual-gang electrical outlet box just like a switch plate on a wall, making it convenient for electricians to prepare a room in preconstruction and to allow the use of surface-track and surface-mount boxes in existing rooms (see Fig. There are three issues with BK5--a single layer is not 100% light tight, it doesn't cement well using 3M spray adhesive, and it's a little more reflective than I'd like as a bellows interior. It displays the status of the room-interlock armed state and the status of its own local contacts. For more information, see www.lia.org. As Tyler Parker, product manager at Newport (Irvine, CA) explains, "Laser-safety eyewear is important because without it users are more likely to physically damage their eyesight from direct or indirect laser light and incoherent light sources. ;). It is a light black cloth that seems to be coated to make it completely lightproof. Contact Custom Bellows in the UK and ask them if they can sell you their fabrics for your specific bellows. @7{t. Satisfaction guaranteed. She said that she thought it would be 100% with a backup layer. By the way, the DIY guy has a number of videos about making a bellows. << /Length 5 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> But since you won't supply any meaningful info or sources I guess I'll leave you to it. I've used HH-66 brush-on vinyl cement for my Thornton-Pickard shutter projects, but a spray on adhesive is really needed for a bellows project. I agree with Tim. So paring down individual fabrics for individual cameras is putting the cart before the horse.
Don't really blame them, but disappointing nonetheless. \?S~~"Tc0n b^ ^?+hMoO FQKqc{pka4,9^J;k$B^ +elnk24cDa?PbM\Q'c>cl6VH9rHX8(.d;!C=9#bRO7Fpu3Vv]T*m!t7n0 9(`. pww8|n(< |'&"5?ai0 XCW4sV5}#}fwD3\!JHxZQwbN(n}~c.@(hzqZTBEQch>v]t+=q6JHlqj@Mq=l*3*w |=T[&hkun;%C;/qL(K2&]Nm/2 bD9s4(f"ff0WHbxQrP8 ro(aw=0*=a}e Have you checked out this article on Bellows construction? So it's not a waste of time at all. << You could ask Micro Tools as well. It is very flexible. "Laser barriers take several forms: curtains, partitions, wall coverings, window shades, window blocks, and optical table surrounds.". switching, gating, modulating or demodulating, G02B 21/26 - Stages; Adjusting means therefor, B82Y 20/00 - Nanooptics, e.g. Quite the contrary - it's simply useful information. Helmut Fischer - First-class measuring instruments for coating thickness measurement, material analysis and material testing, Applications Focus: Milu Forensic Science Systems, Tucsen Photonics: Scientific Imaging Cameras. stream
In the past, I've been able to find thin blackout curtain (cloth on outside, rubberized interior) that glues well and is thin enough for an 8x10 bellows to fold. I think there are 100 year old cardboard bellows still in use. simplicity and functionality for a few bucks and 4 hours. % Sorry but this is a bad idea. With this in mind, this short article will not attempt anything like a complete overviewinstead, just a few examples of laser-safety equipment will be covered. I searched their whole site once, and never found anything like it. /CreationDate (D:20170922184411Z) I'm sorry - the cloth I used from freestyle was called Darkroom cloth - it appears to have been discontinued. The world of laser safety is a large one. Kentek's product was chosen because of the power rating and cleanroom requirements. 2). Cheers. The traditional instructions for replacement bellows are for "smart" outer layer, plastic/card spacers and thin dark cloth - making a sandwich. No idea why it didn't work for Jim, but I found it bonds every bit as good as the HH-66. Honestly I really like the bellows I made with Zero light emission. "Polycarbonate eyewear from Kentek, all of which meet ANSI Z136 and ANSI Z87, use the latest in dye and pigment technologies to create safety lenses that absorb laser radiation and convert that energy into heat. Just seems extravagant when I know how to make them myself. For example, a laser application might just require a simple warning module interlocked to the laser and installed outside the front door of the hazard area, or it may require defeatable or non-defeatable access control modules that can monitor a door or laser curtain. "If a client has a simple configuration with only one laser in a room, this module can be configured to arm automatically whenever the room is armed," Hansknecht says. If I'd followed your advice I'd still be looking for the precise material for each of my many home build cameras. @Rt CXCP%CBH@Rf[(t CQhz#0 Zl`O828.p|OX Will it last 50 years? << Especially if you know that many modern bellows do not use card stiffeners at all today. In my case, however I'm interested in building something about 16" square at the rear and about three and a half feet long. %PDF-1.4 Not only does the fire-proof curtain operate as a laser-blocking screen but also as a blackout screen. >> comparison of effect of material on the light at two or more different wavelengths or wavelength bands, H01S 3/105 - Controlling the intensity, frequency, phase, polarisation or direction of the emitted radiation, e.g. Different fabrics must be used when there are big differences of the required bellows draws to say just one example. And already in the thread n.4 Steve correctly told you you need to choose the fabrics according to the bellows (camera) size. having both horizontal and vertical cavities having only vertical cavities, e.g. Maybe if you asked Custom Bellows where they get their fabric that their source would sell you some quantity for you only? From my own experience! You don't know where to get fabric. 4 0 obj 4). Not expensive at all. MFk t,:.FW8c1L&9aX: rbl1 The Patent Etui needs to fold up tight and extent to only a little over 4"; the plate camera bellows folds to 1 1/2" and extends to almost 40" - with minimal sag. A very thin matte black cloth with a tight weave sandwiched with the BK5 might work. While you may like your material on your camera, it is far, far from being "the best available bellows material". The polycarbonate is much lighter for users to wear, but sometimes cannot provide as much protection as glass. When you factor in the additional materials and the labor--getting a bellows made commercially starts to become a more attractive option. diffuse reflection, G02B 21/32 - Micromanipulators structurally combined with microscopes, 09 - Scientific and electric apparatus and instruments, 30 - Basic staples, tea, coffee, baked goods and confectionery, 42 - Scientific, technological and industrial services, research and design, 16 - Paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials, 21 - HouseHold or kitchen utensils, containers and materials; glassware; porcelain; earthenware. /Creator (Apache FOP Version 1.1) I spread the glue with a brush, word of caution is that the glue has a high amount of solvent in it so as well as having good ventilation while using the glue, it will also cause the BK5 to 'pucker' if you apply too heavy a coat, test on some scraps before you go whole hog with it to get the feel of what it will be like. Apparently it is a synthetic fabric that s been treated to be lightproof. Why make things more complicated than they need to be? vertical cavity surface-emitting lasers [VCSEL], H01S 5/34 - Structure or shape of the active region; Materials used for the active region comprising quantum well or superlattice structures, e.g. xwTS7PkhRH H. I think $64/yd is too expensive. I found (but lost) a thread on another site that said to Google 'organ bellows'. According to MacMullin, the company's Ever-Guard all-metal laser containment products have a damage threshold that is well above the stated rating of 1200 W/cm2, per the ANSI Z136 standard. Jim, I was thinking about using a roller.
He notes that the company's selection of eyewear is supplied by Honeywell Safety Products (Smithfield, RI) and Laservision (St. Paul, MN). Everything available now is too thick and too rubbery (the fold crease wont hold). All rights reserved. Contention: a point advanced or maintained in a debate or discussion. "We even have some eyewear that takes advantage of some multilayer filters for expanded protection for the user," he says. :(. Not to speak about the pressure they would exert on the small Wista lens standard etc. Made of a "eudermic" (comfortable to the skin) laser-safety material, the clothing, in the form of a coat or of pants and a jacket, along with gloves, resists high powers and energies from a range of laser types (see table). Finally, for complicated laser-safety situations, Kentek will combine these technologies in a single product.". Not that the quote was unreasonable. quantum optics or photonic crystals, H01S 3/00 - Lasers, i.e. It would work, but I think it would be pretty stiff. I had a feeling that would happen, that's why I didn't waste my time doing it. Laser 21 is also a Singapore SME 1000 company in 2013. We must remember there two types of bellows. comparison of effect of material on the light at two or more different wavelengths or wavelength bands using photo-electric detection, G01N 21/47 - Scattering, i.e. I think it's similar to the material used to make film changing bags. There are simply different materials for different needs, depending on the bellows size. For a complete listing of companies making laser safety equipment, visit the Laser Focus World Buyers Guide (http://buyersguide.laserfocusworld.com/index.html). bummer. The bellows I have from them are made with thin fabrics 100% light proof. The module connects to the main interlock cable, where it receives control power and indication of the interlock state. "Most common is likely our research customers, who are working and aligning lasers that could potentially damage their eyesight," he adds. Several testing bays were segregated by Ever-Guard laser curtains, while custom Ever-Guard laser barrier panels created separation in the interior of the bays. I just ordered some. Just don't forget the magic word;). For a true starting point, at the end of this article you will find a list of some laser-safety-related companies and the types of products they produce. 2022 Endeavor Business Media, LLC. Because the eye is far more sensitive to damage by light in or near the visible spectral region than is any other part of the human body, proper eyewear is of prime importance to laser safety (see Fig. Done talking about it though. While the first thing that many people buy as protection from hazardous laser light might be eyewear, laser safety encompasses many other types of equipment. Cloth on one side, and plastic on the other. But lots of foldable cameras have just the one layer, often just of strong paper which has been prefolded - anything else will inhibit folding. Click to download Screens, Curtains, Roller Blinds & Enclosures brochure. That player piano fabric mentioned earlier looks promising, if a little expensive. Most are way too thick and stiff for camera bellows. 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John Hansknecht, vice president of Laser Safety Systems (Williamsburg, VA), says that his company saw a need for a staged approach to interlock systems that would let users install a simple minimal system at a low cost, but still have the ability to expand as their needs and budget would allow. Just emailed the manufacturer but I'd be interested in any ideas. H01S 5/183 - Surface-emitting [SE] lasers, e.g. GPS, I think were all talking about conventional folding bellows. Yupo: http://www.yupousa.com/paper/index.php. The Thorlabs BK5 cloth costs about $15/yard--even if you use two layers, the cost is reasonable. No luck, Keith from Custom Bellows said they can't re-sell the material.
In this case, the contention was that it was a waste of time to find one material for all bellows. 1). There must be a supplier of this as a raw fabric somewhere. For the sake of conversation, what is too thick. combined with radiation therapy equipment, G01N 21/27 - Colour; Spectral properties, i.e. Instead of complaining, why don't you ask other bellows manufacturers if they could sell you their material? I did like the challenge though. I'm specifically complaining about you. In most peoples mind, I expect were talking 4x5 or 8x10 with average lengths. If we just did our own thing, all alone, by ourselves, in complete isolation, what would be the point of this forum? I don't find any contention in Ole's statement. Also, it uses rise movements for which thick compressed bellows would not be good. As described by MacMullin, laser barriers are used for safety of personnel in defined areas. "The eyewear is very important, as the user is working very close to direct laser beam paths. Our blinds are easy to clean and help to promote a clean environment.". "In situations where a room contains many lasers or laser systems, the ability to locally control each independent interlock becomes a useful option.". View Full Version : What's the best available bellows fabric? devices using stimulated emission of electromagnetic radiation in the infrared, visible or ultraviolet wave range, H01S 5/06 - Arrangements for controlling the laser output parameters, e.g. Let'em make your bellows then - you won't be disappointed neither by their price nor the quality! Anyway, I'm likely a freak in that regard. I've never made my own bellows but I had a bellows made for a Linhof Technikardan by a company in Clearwater, Florida years ago. Tom MacMullin, president of Kentek (Pittsfield, NH), a company that supplies a range of laser-safety equipment and services, describes the technical differences between the materials in his company's types of eyewear. Is not trying to avoid that rude surprise, the point of this thread? Some of Laser Safety Systems' clients are major manufacturers with a large room full of curtained-off cubicles for life testing of their laser product, Hansknecht explains.
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